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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=789571817-04042014>Actually my earlier message got truncated (an annoying
Microsoft bug for those of us using Outlook 2003 caused by their update to
IE version 11). I was trying to suggest exact what Andrew Leech said, keep
the instrument computer on the network but isolated from the external
Internet. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=789571817-04042014>Also note that it appears that Norton, and presumably
other 3rd party providers of security software, are not terminating support
for XP (at least not now).</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org
[mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John
Burgner<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 04, 2014 9:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
rasmb@list.rasmb.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RASMB] Windows XP - unsupported
from April 2014<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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have used John’s suggestion for the past 5 years on the medical school campus
VCU and have not used MS or VCU IT support at all. We require
people to download the data with flash drives. This is not entirely risk free
since flash drives can act as a vector as well. We do occasionally see a
seemingly non-malicious virus show up that seems to prevent the flash drive from
ejecting. We use the free version of MalwareBytes to scrub the hard drive but it
will not clean the flash drive: gotta pay dollars for that. Probably writing
only once to a cd would be the safest. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org [mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>John Philo<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 04, 2014 11:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Perkins, Stephen'; rasmb@list.rasmb.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RASMB] Windows
XP - unsupported from April 2014<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: blue'>One
comment on the Win XP situation is that termination of MS support it is
only a "problem" in the sense that they will no longer provide patches to fix
vulnerabilities to hacking attacks. If the instrument is not connected to the
Internet that can't be a threat. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
href="mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org">rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org">mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Laue, Thomas<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 04, 2014 7:57
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Glen Ramsay; Perkins, Stephen; <A
href="mailto:rasmb@list.rasmb.org">rasmb@list.rasmb.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [RASMB] Windows XP - unsupported from April 2014</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Hi
all-<BR>I will strongly second Glen's e-mail. <BR>Going from XP to either Win 7
or 8 can be a nightmare due to changes in hardware drivers, changes to how
threading is done and changes in how the operating system handles user access
control. <BR>Microsoft's stopping support on Win XP, while not a surprise, is a
huge problem. A majority of instruments run on XP (95% of ATMs use it), and
everyone is floundering with how to handle the problem. <BR>Best to
all-<BR>Tom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> <A
href="mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org">rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org</A>
[rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org] on behalf of Glen Ramsay
[glen@avivbiomedical.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:34
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Perkins, Stephen; <A
href="mailto:rasmb@list.rasmb.org">rasmb@list.rasmb.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [RASMB] Windows XP - unsupported from April 2014</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Dear RASMB
Folks:<BR><BR>Experience is proving that updating to Windows 7 is more
complicated than desired. Although the Windows updater may run, or the <A
href="http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=20"
target=_blank>Windows System 7 Update Advisor</A> may say an update is possible,
the needs of the analog-to-digit (A/D) boards inside the computer may exceed
what Windows checks for. Therefore, there could be problems after the
Windows 7 update. <BR><BR>The A/D board manufacturer suggests using
computers that have approved by the computer manufacturer for Windows 7.
Anything less than this may not work. The computer model can be obtained
from a label on the chassis, or from a screen display during the boot-up.
Searching the computer manufacturer's web site for that model will show the
drivers and other software support. If Windows 7 is not listed, then the
ability to support the updated A/D drivers is in doubt.<BR><BR>If an update is
not possible, then the options are to continue churning on with Windows XP, or
replacing the computer. Please, do not try "upgrading" with a used
computer: this approach is prone to inheriting the problems from another
time.<BR><BR>Aviv's policy is to try to support our products for as long as
possible. Unfortunately, events beyond our control may age-out older
technology. If you have any questions, or need help, then please feel free
to contact us.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR>Glen<BR><BR><BR>At 08:50 AM 3/19/2014,
Perkins, Stephen wrote:<BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Dear RASMB-ers<BR> <BR>In my
institution, we have been emailed by our central IT Department about the
termination of Windows XP support from April 2014. Apparently if we are to
continue with Windows XP on our AUC machines, we have to register these
networked Windows XP machines with our central IT. Understandably, we are being
advised by our IT to migrate to Windows 7 if possible.<BR> <BR>We have
emailed Beckman-Coulter several times. We have not been successful so far in
finding out whether we can upgrade our PC’s on our two XL-I machines to Windows
7, although the inquiry is with the Beckman engineers. Does anyone know whether
this is possible, yet leave our AUC machines operational? <BR> <BR>A Chief
Engineer from Beckman USA did however point out that Beckman has enough Win XP
licences to cover itself for the next five years. So they will support Win XP
software. <BR> <BR>For the FDS, Glen Ramsay has already confirmed that we
can upgrade to 32-bit Windows 7 on the AVIV-provided PC. <BR> <BR>Thoughts
will be most welcome<BR> <BR>All the best to everyone – we really enjoyed
the Tokyo meeting – especially that late-night bar at sea
level!<BR> <BR>Steve Perkins and Jayesh
Gor<BR>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR> Glen Ramsay,
Ph.D.<BR> Chief Scientist<BR> Aviv Biomedical,
Inc.<BR> 750 Vassar Avenue, Suite #2<BR> Lakewood, NJ
08701<BR> (732) 370-1300, Ext. 25<BR> (732) 370-1303,
FAX<BR> <A
href="mailto:glen@avivbiomedical.com">glen@avivbiomedical.com</A><BR>
<A href="http://www.avivbiomedical.com/"
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