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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have used John’s suggestion for the past 5 years on the medical school campus VCU and have not used MS or VCU IT support at all. We require people to download the data with flash drives. This is not entirely risk free since flash drives can act as a vector as well. We do occasionally see a seemingly non-malicious virus show up that seems to prevent the flash drive from ejecting. We use the free version of MalwareBytes to scrub the hard drive but it will not clean the flash drive: gotta pay dollars for that. Probably writing only once to a cd would be the safest. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John Burgner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org [mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Philo<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 04, 2014 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Perkins, Stephen'; rasmb@list.rasmb.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RASMB] Windows XP - unsupported from April 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>One comment on the Win XP situation is that termination of MS support it is only a "problem" in the sense that they will no longer provide patches to fix vulnerabilities to hacking attacks. If the instrument is not connected to the Internet that can't be a threat. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org">rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org</a> [<a href="mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org">mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Laue, Thomas<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 04, 2014 7:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> Glen Ramsay; Perkins, Stephen; <a href="mailto:rasmb@list.rasmb.org">rasmb@list.rasmb.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RASMB] Windows XP - unsupported from April 2014</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Hi all-<br>I will strongly second Glen's e-mail. <br>Going from XP to either Win 7 or 8 can be a nightmare due to changes in hardware drivers, changes to how threading is done and changes in how the operating system handles user access control. <br>Microsoft's stopping support on Win XP, while not a surprise, is a huge problem. A majority of instruments run on XP (95% of ATMs use it), and everyone is floundering with how to handle the problem. <br>Best to all-<br>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF132016><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org">rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org</a> [rasmb-bounces@list.rasmb.org] on behalf of Glen Ramsay [glen@avivbiomedical.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Perkins, Stephen; <a href="mailto:rasmb@list.rasmb.org">rasmb@list.rasmb.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RASMB] Windows XP - unsupported from April 2014</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dear RASMB Folks:<br><br>Experience is proving that updating to Windows 7 is more complicated than desired. Although the Windows updater may run, or the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=20" target="_blank">Windows System 7 Update Advisor</a> may say an update is possible, the needs of the analog-to-digit (A/D) boards inside the computer may exceed what Windows checks for. Therefore, there could be problems after the Windows 7 update. <br><br>The A/D board manufacturer suggests using computers that have approved by the computer manufacturer for Windows 7. Anything less than this may not work. The computer model can be obtained from a label on the chassis, or from a screen display during the boot-up. Searching the computer manufacturer's web site for that model will show the drivers and other software support. If Windows 7 is not listed, then the ability to support the updated A/D drivers is in doubt.<br><br>If an update is not possible, then the options are to continue churning on with Windows XP, or replacing the computer. Please, do not try "upgrading" with a used computer: this approach is prone to inheriting the problems from another time.<br><br>Aviv's policy is to try to support our products for as long as possible. Unfortunately, events beyond our control may age-out older technology. If you have any questions, or need help, then please feel free to contact us.<br><br>Sincerely,<br>Glen<br><br><br>At 08:50 AM 3/19/2014, Perkins, Stephen wrote:<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dear RASMB-ers<br> <br>In my institution, we have been emailed by our central IT Department about the termination of Windows XP support from April 2014. Apparently if we are to continue with Windows XP on our AUC machines, we have to register these networked Windows XP machines with our central IT. Understandably, we are being advised by our IT to migrate to Windows 7 if possible.<br> <br>We have emailed Beckman-Coulter several times. We have not been successful so far in finding out whether we can upgrade our PC’s on our two XL-I machines to Windows 7, although the inquiry is with the Beckman engineers. Does anyone know whether this is possible, yet leave our AUC machines operational? <br> <br>A Chief Engineer from Beckman USA did however point out that Beckman has enough Win XP licences to cover itself for the next five years. So they will support Win XP software. <br> <br>For the FDS, Glen Ramsay has already confirmed that we can upgrade to 32-bit Windows 7 on the AVIV-provided PC. <br> <br>Thoughts will be most welcome<br> <br>All the best to everyone – we really enjoyed the Tokyo meeting – especially that late-night bar at sea level!<br> <br>Steve Perkins and Jayesh Gor<br>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><br> Glen Ramsay, Ph.D.<br> Chief Scientist<br> Aviv Biomedical, Inc.<br> 750 Vassar Avenue, Suite #2<br> Lakewood, NJ 08701<br> (732) 370-1300, Ext. 25<br> (732) 370-1303, FAX<br> <a href="mailto:glen@avivbiomedical.com">glen@avivbiomedical.com</a><br> <a href="http://www.avivbiomedical.com/" target="_blank">www.avivbiomedical.com<br></a> Skype: GlenAtAviv<br><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:black'>The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. 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